Both. The show is terrible right now.

As for this board, I have almost given up on having a civilized discussion here about any part of DOOL without it somehow morphing into an EJ vs. Lucas bashfest. There are other boards that actually discuss other SLs and the dreaded triangle without it turning nasty, and my guess is that posters have found their way to those sites.

There have been some comments about how the control of the admin is killing this site. It is the fan fighting that killed this site and drove a lot of the posters away.